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                                                                                Could you tell us why and what
                                                                                kind of  work you do with them?
                                                                                Thank you. I think one of the
                                                                                things is that I grew up without a
                                                                                father. Then there were these two
                                                                                men who intervened. Then the
                                                                                other thing is that when working
                                                                                with people in prisons, like cur-
                                                                                rently, there is some work I am are
                                                                                doing and I realized that we have
                                                                                14% of ladies in prison, compared
                                                                                to 85% of men, young men, and
                                                                                these are teenagers. So my ques-
                                                                                tion is, why do we have young men
          Watch the video interview here.                                       in prison? When you look at the
                                                                                statistics, especially for the people
                                                                                who are dying in our society, talk of
          to dignify. And empowering involves   from isolation. And, even though   a crime-related situation. You think
          communicating by giving knowl-     some of them are facing depres-    about traffic, like now Boda-Bodas
          edge, then enlightening the hearts   sion, anxiety, and such things, they   and all that most of them are men.
          of people and allowing these people   have someone to talk to, and so,   And as a result of that, I find that
          to be involved, engaged in what in   that helps us intensify our support,   you need to do something about it,
          what you’re doing. Simply creating a   especially for such groups. I also   and that is intervention and res-
          web in the society where people can   volunteer in hospitals, I remember   cue. Number two, when you think
          hold each other and rise up.       there is this one time I was in a pri-  about gender equality, abuse among
                                             vate hospital and someone, one of   women, perpetrators are men. So, if
          That’s beautiful. I love it because   my colleagues said, “You know here   we want to make sure that children
          increasingly in society, what’s    you will have a hard time, because   and women are safe, then we need
          happening is that people are       when you’re helping the middle     to equip this man. And equipping
          being taught how to be isolated.   class, they will be asking you about   this man is mainly helping the man
          So, do you find it challenging to   your qualifications. But when you’re   know his identity, helping the man
          bring people together? Are they    helping people in a public hospital,   educate his vision, helping the man
          responsive to the ideas and sug-   they are willing to receive, because   know that he has something that he
          gestions that you make when you    that’s the best they can get as a re-  carries, as a man. There’s also this
          go out and reach out to them?      sult their socio-economic situations   one situation where, you know, I
          I would say actually, that is working,   or circumstances. So, there’s a lot of   hear people saying that women are
          but I find it working more among   isolation in our society, and how is   their own enemies. I don’t believe
          the broken. And this because when   the isolation built? It’s simply by us   so because I think for men it’s bad.
          I’m working with people, in the    moving our identity from who we    2017 I come, my constituency, some
          informal settlements, for them, they   are, to the things that we have. By   cops are deployed to come and curb
          have human connection. When I’m    doing so, we are building walls, by   a situation. So, this one day decided
          working with people in prison, they   doing so, people will interact with   to go to a police station. And I car-
          have human connection, these are   you based on what you do, or where   ried a manual, ‘Father to Son’. And
          people who have reached this space   you work, not necessarily because   so I found the OCPD and the OCS
          where they’re saying that “I’m grate-  you’re a human being. So, our drive   deploying the cops, and so I decided
          ful this thing happened, because I   here is to help people remember   to have a conversation with them
          met myself.” And I am not in any   that they’re human beings, and they   before they leave, and I remember
          way  advocating poverty, and pain   can connect and support each other.  one cop saying, “Wakirusha, tunaru-
          and all those things. But I think                                     sha!” “If they throw stones, we
          these are people who’ve reached a   So you work a lot with young      shoot” or something like that. And
          place where they are not addicted   men.                              I told him, man, what if it’s your
          to individualism, they have moved   Yes.                              son throwing that stone? Would
                                                                                you shoot him?” And he said, “We



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